"Sexism exists, yes. And it probably influenced votes. There were also many individuals in the media who made sexist comments.
But that isn't why she lost."
i did not say that's why she lost.
i said: that sexism "had played a significant role."
you said: "Sexism exists, yes. And it probably influenced votes."
so we agree. on the "why she lost" line, you are arguing with a straw man.
Most Obama supporters have already admitted as much. It seemed to me you used "significant" to mean that it was an influential factor in determining the nominee.
There are diaries up all over the place lately saying that misogyny is what caused her loss. That's what Obama supporters disagree with. No one is saying sexism doesn't exist and that sexism did not influence anyone's vote.
point well taken.
but there are also alot of diaries that say "sexism was a problem" and alot of responses that "no, it didn't." or that said "it didn't cost her the nomination" when the diaries didn't say that at all.
Yeah, people are still reacting and over-reacting, on both sides.
It's going to take a little while to calm down.
Hopefully, we can start having a little patience with each other, and see that some people, and hopefully, most people, on each side are willing to treat each other with respect.
And, given that, we can start to ignore the people who respond with kneejerk criticism.
