" likewise, will the Obama supporters continue their ridiculous line of arguement that sexism hasn't played a significant role in this campaign?"
No. I'm all for being positive and I really see no need to tear down Clinton, but our reason for denying this argument is simply that we don't agree with it, not because we don't want it to be true.
Sexism exists, yes. And it probably influenced votes. There were also many individuals in the media who made sexist comments.
But that isn't why she lost. It's not even one of the reasons why she lost. She came in with every advantage, including her gender. Woman across the country were energized by the idea that a woman was running for president. And while I personally wouldn't cast a vote along gender or racial lines, I think someone has every right to do so.
But I wholeheartedly believe that whatever role sexism on the part of men played in these primaries was completely overcome with the votes and support of women who wanted to see a woman president.
Clinton lost because Obama ran a brilliant campaign and in the end, appealed to more voters. That is why we reject the assertion. I am more than willing to make up with Clinton supporters, but I will not admit something I don't believe to be true.
"Sexism exists, yes. And it probably influenced votes. There were also many individuals in the media who made sexist comments.
But that isn't why she lost."
i did not say that's why she lost.
i said: that sexism "had played a significant role."
you said: "Sexism exists, yes. And it probably influenced votes."
so we agree. on the "why she lost" line, you are arguing with a straw man.
Most Obama supporters have already admitted as much. It seemed to me you used "significant" to mean that it was an influential factor in determining the nominee.
There are diaries up all over the place lately saying that misogyny is what caused her loss. That's what Obama supporters disagree with. No one is saying sexism doesn't exist and that sexism did not influence anyone's vote.
point well taken.
but there are also alot of diaries that say "sexism was a problem" and alot of responses that "no, it didn't." or that said "it didn't cost her the nomination" when the diaries didn't say that at all.
Yeah, people are still reacting and over-reacting, on both sides.
It's going to take a little while to calm down.
Hopefully, we can start having a little patience with each other, and see that some people, and hopefully, most people, on each side are willing to treat each other with respect.
And, given that, we can start to ignore the people who respond with kneejerk criticism.
